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Eldrin
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Issue #1:
Images put on the clipboard can't be previewed anymore.

Steps to reproduce:
Open Paint, make some squiggly lines, select all, Ctrl+C. Now you have an image on the clipboard. Now try to do 'Show Preview Popup' using ClipboardFusion. Nothing is displayed.

Issue #2:
Putting the exact same image on the clipboard creates duplicate entries:

Steps to reproduce:
Open Paint, make some squiggly lines, select all, Ctrl+C. Now you have an image on the clipboard. Open ClipboardFusion's Clipboard Manager and notice the single entry for that image. Now, in Paint, hit Ctrl+C a few more times. Open ClipboardFusion's Clipboard Manager and notice the many duplicate entries for that same image.

Issue #3:
Pasting an image using Clipboard Manager creates a duplicate of it.

Open Paint, make some squiggly lines, select all, Ctrl+C. Now you have an image on the clipboard. When you view the Clipboard Manager, there is just a single entry in position 1 for that image. Now copy some text to the clipboard. Now in Clipboard Manager there are 2 entries: the text in position 1 and the image in position 2. Now open an application such as Word, and using the Clipboard Manager select the image in position 2 so that the image gets pasted into Word. Now have a look at the Clipboard Manager again. Instead of having 2 things in the list, it now has 3 things in its list. 2 copies of the image (i.e. the original one plus a duplicate that has just been created) and the text.

These are pretty basic things that don't work in CF 6.1. I wonder how come no-one else has noticed, especially since they actually go back several versions to before the final version of 6.0 was released. I've reported these issues to Support a long time ago, but to this day are still unresolved. So that's why I've now created a forum post to bring more attention to them.
Sep 11, 2023  • #1
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We can't seem to reproduce #1 on our end anymore, but we can reproduce #2 & #3. We have some ideas on what might be going on there, so we'll take another look at it.

Thanks!
Sep 25, 2023  • #2
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Eldrin
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Hi Owen / Support,

Can you please confirm whether these issues have been addressed in recent versions of ClipboardFusion? I'm still running v6.0 Beta 6 because each time I'd upgraded to any newer version (anywhere from later beta versions of 6.0 up until the 6.1 Final) I had to downgrade again each time to avoid these bugs, and it would waste my time. I'd really like to get back to running the latest versions again, but I'd appreciate it if you could tell me if these issues are now resolved.
Feb 7, 2025  • #3
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Eldrin
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I took the time to do these tests again. So I've just upgraded from CF 6.0 Beta 6 to CF 6.2. Here are my findings:

Issue #1 is still an issue for me. I have a trigger that runs automatically when anything is copied to the clipboard and it issues the command 'HotKey: Show Preview Popup'. Whenever I send image data to the clipboard now, I get no automatic preview popup. Furthermore, even if I manually hit the hotkey assigned to 'Show Preview Popup' I still get no preview popup for image data. So for me this is something that immediately stops working after upgrading to the new version. For text data, the preview popups still work fine.

Issue #2 appears to be resolved.

Issue #3 appears to be mostly resolved. However, there is still a problem with it. With the text data in position 1, and the image data in position 2, if I use the Clipboard Manager to paste the image (by selecting it), then the image gets put onto the clipboard (and pasted into the target application) but doesn't move into position 1 in the Clipboard Manager. I do have the option 'Show Clipboard changes made by ClipboardFusion' enabled, so this is clearly a bug (which I don't believe was present in the earlier version I was using).

There is also a new bug I noticed after upgrading to CF 6.2. Now, when I hit the hotkey for 'Clear Clipboard Contents' and watch the tray icon to see it change from 'full' to 'empty', it takes several seconds to take effect (i.e. for me to see the change to the tray icon). In the earlier version, it would take effect instantly.

Please let me know if you require any further information. I really hope these issues can be fixed so that I don't have to roll back to CF 6.0 Beta 6 again.
Feb 8, 2025 (modified Feb 8, 2025)  • #4
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I was able to reproduce all of those here so I've added them to our list.

Thanks!
Feb 11, 2025  • #5
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Rod M
107 discussion posts
I'll add a few more bugs:
Items disappear from Clipboard Manager.
Clicking the title bar to drag the window shrinks the window.
Items in the list suddenly reduce in font size. If I close and restart CF it's ok again.

I'll try and get a video capture.
Video now attached.
Font shrinks as shown and restores when CF closed/reopened in pics.
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Feb 23, 2025 (modified Feb 25, 2025)  • #6
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send me a copy of your troubleshooting info? Here are the steps:

  • Open the ClipboardFusion Settings > Troubleshooting tab
  • Click the "Export Info to File" button
  • Reply with the file attached

For the items disappearing, are they getting added to the history and then instantly removed?
Feb 25, 2025  • #7
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Rod M
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Time even 10:49
• Attachment [protected]: ClipboardFusionDebugInfo.zip [483,686 bytes]
Feb 27, 2025  • #8
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
This is likely due to the difference in DPI between your monitors, I can't seem to reproduce it here though. Does it happen after something specific, like waking from sleep?
Mar 5, 2025  • #9
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Rod M
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No, typically if I try to move the window after the system has booted, it'll resize.
If I close CF and restart it, move the window and it'll resize.

I moved the clipboard manager window to the primary screen and closed CF. Restarted it, opened CM window, dragged it and it didn't resize. Tried 6 times and it's fine. Do it on the 2nd screen and problem!
So maybe it it is a screen resolution/scaling issue.
Mar 7, 2025 (modified Mar 7, 2025)  • #10
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Could you send a full desktop screenshot showing where the Clipboard Manager window opened on the second screen when the scaling level is wrong? I still can't seem to reproduce this issue here :(
Mar 19, 2025  • #11
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Eldrin
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Keith / Owen,

Is there a new build coming anytime soon that addresses the issues I raised and discussed in the first few posts within this thread? They date back to 2023. I'm especially interested in a fix for the non-working preview popup for images -- it's unbelievable that this core feature has been non-functional for so long.
Apr 8, 2025  • #12
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Eldrin: I've checked the open ticket for those, and they're currently on the list for the next beta :)

We do need to sometimes bump issues out depending on complexity and other factors, but hopefully we can get these ones sorted out for the next version.

Thanks!
Apr 11, 2025 (modified Apr 11, 2025)  • #13
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Rod M
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Hhmmm...now CF fonts are stuck small even on the main monitor.
Cleared history, everything. Maybe a reinstall?
An option to change fonts maybe?
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Apr 25, 2025  • #14
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@Rod M: If you close the Clipboard Manager window and re-open it, do the fonts then adjust to the correct scaling level?
Apr 25, 2025  • #15
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Rod M
107 discussion posts
Not always.Inconsistent.
May 24, 2025  • #16
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Rod: Could you attach a backup of your ClipboardFusion Settings? (Settings > Options > Export)
Jun 13, 2025  • #17
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Rod M
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attached
• Attachment [protected]: ClipboardFusion Backup (2025-06-14 @ 14-21, 6.2.0.0, GRAM17, SettingsWindow).db [53,248 bytes]
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Jun 14, 2025  • #18
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks! Was finally able to reproduce that scaling issue. This is what seems to be happening:

  • Primary monitor is 150% scaling, second monitor is 100%
  • Clipboard Manager is set to open in "Last Location"
  • Move Clipboard Manager to second monitor, font size is correct (100%)
  • Exit ClipboardFusion completely
  • Launch ClipboardFusion
  • Open Clipboard Manager, font size is incorrect (150%)
  • Move the Clipboard Manager window, font size adjust to correct value (100%)

I've added this to our list to fix up. Thanks!
Jun 18, 2025  • #19
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Rod M
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Woohoo!! ;)
Jun 20, 2025  • #20
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Eldrin
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Keith,

We're coming up to 2 YEARS since I reported the major bugs in the first post. Actually, more than 2 years based on the age of some of the emails exchanged before I went a step further and posted the issues into this forum post.

I.e. it's been 2+ years since ClipboardFusion has been able to show a preview popup for an image copied to the clipboard, for example.

Surely you must agree that the situation is rather ridiculous. What are you guys doing?
Jun 26, 2025 (modified Jun 26, 2025)  • #21
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
@Eldrin: I've just checked and these are on the roadmap for the next beta.
Jun 30, 2025  • #22
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Rod M
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Any closer to getting the CF manager resizing and font size issue sorted?
Nov 5, 2025  • #23
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Not yet sorry, but it is still on our list for the next version.
Nov 5, 2025  • #24
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Rod M
107 discussion posts
Next version...
Any idea when that'll be as this resizing bug is annoying!!
Nov 17, 2025  • #25
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We have the new version scheduled for next month. :)
Nov 18, 2025  • #26
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skevil
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Quote:
We have the new version scheduled for next month. :)


8)

Update still on schedule for this month?
Dec 6, 2025  • #27
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We're working on getting the new beta out today if we can, then the full release Thu or Fri this week. We're very close! :)
Dec 17, 2025  • #28
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Eldrin
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One of the issues I discussed earlier in this thread is still not fixed in version 6.3. Quoting from earlier in the thread:

"Issue #3 appears to be mostly resolved. However, there is still a problem with it. With the text data in position 1, and the image data in position 2, if I use the Clipboard Manager to paste the image (by selecting it), then the image gets put onto the clipboard (and pasted into the target application) but doesn't move into position 1 in the Clipboard Manager. I do have the option 'Show Clipboard changes made by ClipboardFusion' enabled, so this is clearly a bug (which I don't believe was present in the earlier version I was using)."
Dec 21, 2025  • #29
Jon Tackabury (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We're still tracking that issue and trying to resolve it unfortunately. We didn't want to hold up the 6.3 release for it but we hope to have it fixed in the new year. Thanks!
Dec 22, 2025  • #30
Owen Muhlethaler (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We've released a new beta that should fix the issue with images not getting moved to the top of the history window when selected. Please let me know if you run into any issues after updating.

Thanks!
Jul 23, 2026  • #31
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Eldrin
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In 6.4 Beta 7, the issue where you paste an image from the history and it doesn't move to the top of the history in Clipboard Manager is back, despite 'Show clipboard changes made by ClipboardFusion' being enabled.

And then after doing that action (pasting an image from several entries prior in the History), if you try to invoke 'Show Preview Popup', ClipboardFusion crashes.

The developers have been struggling to get this to work properly for several releases now. Please ask AI for some help with the development.
Sep 17, 2026 (modified Sep 17, 2026)  • #32
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Weirdly I wasn't able to reproduce the preview popup crash just a minute ago when testing for the other topic, but I can now. I've added my crash dump to the open ticket for it.

Regarding the image selected from a prior history entry not moving to the top, I can't seem to reproduce that. Are you able to reproduce it 100% of the time, or is it an intermittent issue?
Sep 18, 2026  • #33
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Scratch my last question, I was able to reproduce that after more testing as well and have re-opened that ticket with the new details.
Sep 18, 2026  • #34
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Eldrin
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Hi Keith, I think there have been cases where I can get the image entry to move to the top of the History, but that those cases have likely been where I've done it with a more recently copied image and not one from further back in the history such as a previous day (or maybe some other factor such as being smaller than a certain size, etc.).

I think the image entry not moving to the top of the list happens when ClipboardFusion:
(a) Shows the Preview Popup (according to my automatic trigger rule to do so whenever clipboard content changes) and then immediately crashes (so presumably the move to the top of the history doesn't get a chance to happen).
(b) Doesn't show the Preview Popup but doesn't immediately crash either, but then crashes as soon as I then manually try to invoke the Preview Popup.

I bet that both (a) and (b) are caused by the issues identified in the crash dump analysis, which showed ClipboardFusion not handling image data correctly.
Sep 18, 2026  • #35
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
We are also suspecting that both issues are related and I was able to reproduce it intermittently here, so we'll re-test after fixing the crash for sure.

Thanks!
Sep 18, 2026  • #36
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Eldrin
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I've only installed 6.4 Beta 8 less than a minute ago, but in the first few seconds of testing it I've already noticed:

(1) when selecting images fron the History to paste into an application, new History entries are created at the top of the History, rather than moving the existing entries.

(2) No preview popup is shown when pasting the historical images, despite having a trigger to automatically show the preview popup whenever a change is made to the clipboard.

I must say this is becoming rather frustrating to me, as it's clear that not even 5 seconds of testing was done on your side. What is the solution? Emailing me with the next beta build, before you release it publicly, so I can test for a few seconds first?
Sep 24, 2026 (modified Sep 24, 2026)  • #37
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
For #1, does it matter which application the image was copied from originally? I can't reproduce this here.

For #2, can you send me a screenshot of the Trigger rule?
Sep 25, 2026  • #38
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Eldrin
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The images were screenshots taken by Snagit. Tested by trying to paste them from the CF History into Word.

I notice that even pasting text from the CF History no longer triggers the Preview Popup.

Attached are screenshots of my Triggers. One showing all triggers, and one showing detail of the one for 'Clipboard changed'.
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Sep 25, 2026  • #39
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks, I can't reproduce the first one yet, but will try again on Monday. I was able to reproduce the second one and have added it to the list for the next beta.
Sep 25, 2026  • #40
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Eldrin
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So with the first issue, now that my images that were originally sent to the clipboard while Beta 7 was in use have aged out of the History (after 24 hours as per my settings), I've tested pasting more recent images sent to the clipboard while Beta 8 is installed, and this time I don't see duplicates being created, but I also don't see them moving to the top of the History as they should.

EDIT (26 Sep): Scratch that comment about duplicates not being created. I just pasted an image from the History, taken by the Snipping Tool, into Word, and it created a duplicate in the History.
Sep 25, 2026 (modified Sep 26, 2026)  • #41
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for the extra info, I wonder why I can't seem to reproduce it here. I'm testing using these steps, let me know if I'm missing a step:

  • Open Snipping Tool, take a screenshot (region, dragged to select with mouse, then clicked the Copy button on the toolbar in Snipping Tool)
  • Copy some other text to move the screenshot down the history list
  • Open Word and give the document focus
  • Click the screenshot in the history list to paste it into Word
Sep 28, 2026  • #42
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Regarding the Trigger that shows the Preview Popup on clipboard changed, what's happening there is that the Clipboard Changed trigger purposely ignores changes that were set by a selection in the Clipboard Manager window. This is done intentionally and not something we plan to change.

However, looking at your usage case for the Trigger, we're thinking that adding two new sub-options to the "Show Clipboard Preview Popup" option:

  • "Also show Preview Popup when text is copied"
  • "Also show Preview Popup when selecting item in Clipboard Manager"
I believe adding those would achieve what you're trying to do with the Trigger rule. Can you confirm before we make those changes here?
Sep 29, 2026 (modified Sep 29, 2026)  • #43
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Eldrin
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Hi Keith, I want the Preview Popup to always update me to show me the latest thing that is now on the clipboard, whether that is by me copying text or images, or whether it is ClipboardFusion itself putting something on the clipboard (as the "current" item) by selecting something from the History. Already, the Clipboard History has an option 'Show clipboard changes made by ClipboardFusion', which I have enabled, with the intention that I can see by looking at the top of the History what has most recently been put on the clipboard (and what is currently there).

Since pasting from the History involves putting that selected item onto the clipboard, I don't understand why anybody would want the Preview Popup to not show the current state of what is actually there now, after performing that operation. So I can't say I understand the thinking behind "not something we plan to change". All that I'm doing is having the Preview Popup show automatically, but it should show the same thing as what someone manually invoking the shortcut should see after performing such an operation.

So I must admit I don't see the point of adding new options.

To summarise what I expect:
    When copying either text or an image, that text or image should appear at the top of the History, in position #1.
    When selecting an existing History entry to paste into an application, that text or image should move to the top of the History, to position #1 (without creating a new, duplicate entry in the History).
    In both of the above cases, I expect to see an automatic Preview Popup, showing what is currently on the clipboard, just as if I'd manually invoked the Show Preview Popup shortcut afterwards.
Sep 29, 2026  • #44
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
The thing we don't plan to change is having Triggers fire on text set by clicking an item in the Clipboard Manager, as that would affect more than just your workflow here. It does sound like adding the two new options I mentioned will suit your workflow, and I think they make sense as options as I can see more people wanting that behaviour from the Preview Popup, so having them as options in the settings versus hidden behind having to create a Trigger rule also makes sense.

For the other two points in your requirements about moving items to the top when selected, and newly copied items appearing at the top, I know there are a couple of bugs there that we're working on, but when they're sorted out, that should also be working the way you're expecting.

Thanks!
Sep 29, 2026  • #45
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I had AI do a deep inspection and analysis of 6.4 Beta 8 regarding the issue affecting images either getting duplicated or not moving at all in the History. It got really technical and went deep into the nitty gritty details of several issues it identified, but below is the more high-level and human-readable summary of the analysis and resolution that I asked it to produce at the end:

Selecting an image in History does not move that row. The click loads the stored image, puts it on the clipboard, and pastes it. The row only moves if the clipboard watcher later decides the clipboard still holds that same History item. For images that check usually fails, so a second copy is added at the top and the original stays where it was. Text goes through the same path and moves correctly, because its identity is a hash of the exact string.

Image identity is an MD5 of a freshly built 32-bit device-independent bitmap (DIB), header included. That hash was taken from the original clipboard bitmap, then the picture was saved as JPEG (PNG only if that option is on, and it defaults off). On selection the file is decoded and that decoded bitmap is what gets published. The watcher hashes it again, and assigning the image always recomputes the hash, so the one stored with the row is discarded. JPEG output does not match, and neither does a lot of PNG output: a normal clipboard DIB often has 0 in the unused alpha byte, while a GDI+ reload comes back 24-bit or 32-bit with alpha 255. Those look the same and hash differently. Any 32-bit alpha, red, green, blue (ARGB) format is also treated as transparent, so the republished image offers PNG and DIB version 5 (DIBv5) instead of the CF_DIB clipboard format.

The watcher is debounced, about 150 ms, and every clipboard update restarts the timer, so it reads the clipboard after the paste rather than the data just published. A lot of apps replace an image on paste with their own encoding, which does not carry the "this came from a History item" marker. If the original item also had text or a file list, those have to match too, so an image-only echo misses even sooner.

Sometimes an older image neither moves nor duplicates. The History window closes and focus returns before the image is published, and the target opens the clipboard for the paste. If the clipboard is still open, the watcher retries up to 10 times and then drops the update. An image paste often holds it open that long, and closing it after a read does not raise another notification. The update is also dropped when the read produces no usable bitmap (decode failure, or over the 20 MB capture limit) or when that app's capture rules ignore images. The other silent case is a read of the previous clipboard contents: matching walks from the newest row and uses the hash, not the row that was clicked, so it re-stamps the item already at the top and leaves the one you selected alone.

The click should move that row by its id as soon as it is chosen, and write the new timestamp then. A later failed read, an empty read, a size-limit skip, or an ignore-application rule must not undo it. Those rules are for new copies made by other programs. They should not apply to a row the user just chose. Put the same id in a private clipboard format on the data object you already mark as "placed from History." While that format is still present, the watcher should move that id and skip the image-hash path entirely. Reading your own bitmap back and hashing the clone is what drops the stored hash.

That marker is often gone by the time the debounced read runs, because the target has replaced the clipboard. Remember the id, and a canonical copy of the image, from the moment you publish until the next real copy that did not come from History. Image paste raises several updates (the initial publish, format synthesis, then the target's write), and the timer restarts on each one, so the read you act on is usually the target's later write. One "ignore next change" flag gets consumed by the first of those. While that remembered paste is still in effect, a new clipboard image that canonically matches the image you just pasted should update that same row. Canonical means straight-alpha pixels, with alpha forced to opaque when no pixel has partial transparency, and no DIB header bytes in the hash. Do not also require the original text or file list to still be there, since the target often puts back the picture alone. If the read still shows the previous clipboard item, leave that top row alone instead of treating it as the thing the user selected.

For ordinary copies, keep content dedup, but hash the same canonical pixels you will compare later, after the encode and decode you actually store. JPEG cannot be the identity. Persisting PNG is the straightforward fix. Hashing the canonical decoded pixels once and storing that hash also works. Checking "transparent" from the pixel format should be replaced with a check for partial alpha, so an opaque 32-bit image is published as CF_DIB again and the round trip stops changing shape. The open-clipboard retry can stay as a way to get a clean read, but the id-based move has to stand even when those retries run out.
23 days ago  • #46
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Here's a test build for the next beta if you'd like to give it a try for this issue: https://www.binaryfortress.com/Data/Download/?Package=clipboardfusion&Beta=1&TEST11=1&Log=0

For the Preview Popup on clipboard change, try disabling your Trigger, and enabling both "Also show the Preview Popup..." options on the Settings > General tab.

Thanks!
20 days ago  • #47
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Eldrin
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Thanks Keith. I don't think these new options are for me, as I see that they've been added as sub-options under the old option for showing a preview of HTML Colours, which I've never had enabled (and don't wish to have enabled). See a screenshot of my settings on the General tab.

All I want is that a Preview Popup is automatically shown (of what has most recently been changed/added to the clipboard, and it must show the actual image or the actual text). And my Trigger did that for years.

Selecting a historical entry from the History does indeed make a change to what is currently on the clipboard, so I don't see why a trigger for 'Clipboard Changed' should ever miss such an event. It was only in Beta 8, I believe, that you guys decided for some reason that selecting entries from the History should explicitly ignore such a trigger. It makes no sense.

With regards to this new build, I got it to crash within the first minute when just testing text copying (see my other thread). I haven't done any testing of how images are handled in the History, but I saw no acknowledgement of my last post where I spent considerable time doing further analysis with AI (which found a ton of problems with the implementation, even over-and-above what was discussed). Whether the developers took onboard all that information, or made any changes based on it, is unknown. And whether the developers are interested in doing similar analysis themselves, with similar tools, is unknown.

I don't really like the direction that ClipboardFusion is going in (e.g. these new options), and to be honest I'm getting a bit jaded with the instability and unpredictability concerning its function. Furthermore, the fact that current state-of-the-art AI systems can see such a vast number of design and implementation flaws doesn't inspire confidence. ClipboardFusion could certainly do with an (AI-assisted) overhaul of its codebase focused on stability, reliability, and predictability.

EDIT: I think if you guys are adamant about adding new options (because you want it to be easier for others to have the same functionality as what I've used a Trigger for), these simplified settings make more sense:

[ ] Automatically show the Preview Popup for changes to the clipboard
    [ ] Show HTML colours in the Preview Popup
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20 days ago (modified 19 days ago)  • #48
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
I went back and tested a trigger with the "Show Preview Popup" action in 6.3 from last year and it doesn't fire there either. It could be that whatever program you were pasting into is updating the clipboard after the paste and that's what was making the trigger fire, as it definitely doesn't fire when selecting an item from the history.

Regarding the crash, we are looking into it but tracking it in the other thread.

While we appreciate the feedback on the betas, AI analysis isn't always correct and relying on AI tools to overhaul ClipboardFusion isn't a realistic option to improve stability or performance. To set expectations, we don't plan to comment further on our internal processes.

For the preview popup settings, you're correct, aside from the trigger method not working for the reasons previously stated, we do think that functionality would be useful for others which is why we want to add official settings for them. I hadn't considered that you may not want the HTML colours part of that setting, so we're thinking that just breaking them out into separate settings would make it the most flexible:

[ ] Show Clipboard Preview Popup for Images
[ ] Show Clipboard Preview Popup for Text
[ ] Show Clipboard Preview Popup for HTML Colours
[ ] Also show the Preview Popup when selecting items in the Clipboard Manager
16 days ago (modified 16 days ago)  • #49
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While we appreciate the feedback on the betas, AI analysis isn't always correct and relying on AI tools to overhaul ClipboardFusion isn't a realistic option to improve stability or performance. To set expectations, we don't plan to comment further on our internal processes.

I fully understand and appreciate that some people hold that viewpoint. In the meantime, I've used AI to create several applications that are best-in-class (compared to all other similar apps in the market), and have robustness, reliability, and stability prioritised highly. For some of the small apps I've created, I typically spend about 20-30 hours conversing with the AI, focussing on many rounds of robustness checks, and in the end I produce something that has a state machine that has been analysed through all possible code paths, and can't possibly crash under pretty much any circumstances.

I think my next major project I embark on will be a clipboard manager.
16 days ago  • #50
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We've just posted an updated 6.4 Beta 9 that breaks out the preview popup options on the Settings > General tab. You can download it and install it over top of the existing test build we sent a few days ago.
https://www.clipboardfusion.com/Download/Beta/
13 days ago  • #51
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In just using 6.4 Beta 9 normally so far (not purposely doing any targeted tests), I haven't experienced any crashes when copying and pasting text. And text entries have moved to the top of the History when selecting them in the History.

But the first image I've just tried pasting, by selecting it from the History, did not move to the top of the History as it should have. The image was one that had automatically been sent to the clipboard originally when capturing with Snagit, and the paste was done many hours later into Microsoft Word.

It's clear that ClipboardFusion is still trying to do image-matching when deciding whether to move image entries in the History. The AI had already pointed out that that is a bad and unnecessary approach, and that the move (when a user definitely has selected a History entry) should just be done on the image entry's ID rather than unnecessarily trying to do another image match which is unreliable (the reasons for which it had outlined in its analysis).
10 days ago  • #52
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When that happens, does it create a new image entry at the top for that image with ClipboardFusion listed as the source, while leaving the original SnagIt entry where it was?

Or does the original SnagIt entry stay where it was an no new entry is created at the top?
9 days ago  • #53
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When that happens, does it create a new image entry at the top for that image with ClipboardFusion listed as the source, while leaving the original SnagIt entry where it was?

Or does the original SnagIt entry stay where it was an no new entry is created at the top?


The Snagit entry stayed where it was and no new entry was created at the top. That is what I noticed in this instance, but I'm sure with previous Betas I saw the other behaviour too.
9 days ago  • #54
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Does it happen if you click a single image to paste it and wait a few seconds? I can reproduce an issue here where selecting 2 images in quick succession will result in the second one moving to the top, but not the first one. Wondering if that's the same behaviour you're seeing or if you can reproduce it with just selecting one image as well.
9 days ago  • #55
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For me it happens even with just a single image. In this case, I just had a small number of text entries in the History, let's say 3 text entries in positions 1-3 in the History, and a single image from many hours earlier in position 4. Nothing else. I opened Word, invoked the Clipboard Manager, and used the keyboard to select the image in position 4, which pasted it into Word. Nothing updated in the Clipboard Manager -- the History still showed the text entries in positions 1-3, and the image in position 4. No amount of waiting made the image entry move.

And I've just done a fresh test now, and get the same result. With a mixture of text and image entries in the History, I've just pasted an image into Word from a prior History entry, and it too just stayed in its original place (without creating a duplicate).
9 days ago  • #56
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Ok thanks for clarifying. I can't reproduce this here for some reason, but we'll look into it further and see what we can do.
8 days ago  • #57
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8 days ago (modified 8 days ago)  • #58
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We have an early test build of beta 10 that should hopefully fix up the issue with the images not moving to the top. We couldn't reproduce the issue here with beta 9, so please let me know how it works out for you.
https://www.binaryfortress.com/Data/Download/?DownloadID=01a1799f-7743-7122-863d-827ba6b0fce4&Log=0

Thanks!
3 days ago  • #59
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Thanks, I'll let you know what I notice over time. The very first image I pasted (a very recent capture with Snagit from today) from the History into Word did move to the top spot.

Separately, I noticed that when entries are selected in the History in this manner, whether images or text, their timestamps on the visual flyout (on hover) get updated to the current time. I don't know if this is new, but it would make more sense that the timestamps are left alone when moving entries in the History, as the timestamp shows when the content was copied by the source program concerned. In other words, the timestamps should show the time of the original copy operation, not the time of the paste operation.
3 days ago (modified 3 days ago)  • #60
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Further to my last post, I've done some more testing.

I opened Paint, draw a black squiggle (on the default, white background), Select All, Copy. Then I copied some text strings to the clipboard from other apps to move the Paint image down in the History.

Then I went into Word, and used the CF History to paste the image from Paint. What got pasted into Word was just a solid black rectangle (the entire image size, just as solid black). Many times in the past I've seen the preview in CF's History show solid black for stuff copied from Paint, but in this case it actually causes solid black to be pasted when selecting that image. And now, when I do a Preview Popup, the preview shows me just solid black.

On the other hand, I've done a few more tests of pastes from the History of Snagit captures, and so far they've been moving to the top of the History as expected, apart from the issue I described in my last post where the timestamps are getting changed unnecessarily.
2 days ago  • #61
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
Thanks for the feedback on the test build! We have added the date stamp issue and the issue with pasting images from Paint to the list to hopefully fix up for Beta 10.
2 days ago  • #62
Keith Lammers (BFS)'s profile on WallpaperFusion.com
One additional note, there's a bug in Beta 9 and the test build of Beta 10 that prevents new Macros and edits to Macros from saving. Just a heads up there to avoid lost work if you use Macros.
2 days ago  • #63
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